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PostSubject: 45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070??   45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070?? EmptySat Mar 02, 2019 8:48 am

Config within MO does nothing in game regarding how far things load in, trying to increase so it wont stutter as much, just dropped 500 on a 2070 literally JUST for this game (and future proofing) Why in the hell am I still getting relatively same frames? Settings are correct in Nvidia Control Panel - RottenDub have any recommendations? Can anyone point me to a section where I can see how to increase things? Do I need to re do Dyndaload? So confused. Should be getting as solid 60fps? 

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*GB DDR4 ram
I7 Quad Core 7700k
EVGA 2070
SSD with PLP running 1.2gb read and write.

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PostSubject: Re: 45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070??   45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070?? EmptySat Mar 02, 2019 8:58 am

@archangel wrote:
Config within MO does nothing in game regarding how far things load in, trying to increase so it wont stutter as much, just dropped 500 on a 2070 literally JUST for this game (and future proofing) Why in the hell am I still getting relatively same frames? Settings are correct in Nvidia Control Panel - RottenDub have any recommendations? Can anyone point me to a section where I can see how to increase things? Do I need to re do Dyndaload? So confused. Should be getting as solid 60fps? 

Specs:
*GB DDR4 ram
I7 Quad Core 7700k
EVGA 2070
SSD with PLP running 1.2gb read and write.

Thanks guys
Since it is a new video card make sure you have the updated drivers for it.
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PostSubject: Re: 45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070??   45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070?? EmptySat Mar 02, 2019 9:59 am

i read from Rottendubs that it doesn't matter how good your graphics card is, as long does it's a gtx 970 or above. The average frame rate that you can get in his mod pack is around 30-40 fps in cities and 40-60 fps outside in the world. it's just how it is with this mod pack having 500+ mods and skyrim being 8 years old. Skyrim SSE is the one you want to mod if you want perfect performance.
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PostSubject: Re: 45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070??   45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070?? EmptySat Mar 02, 2019 10:06 am

However, what might help is having a even better Cpu because i hear skyrim is more CPU intensive than GPU.
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Thanks guy, yeah I guess its just bethesda being bethesda lol
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PostSubject: Re: 45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070??   45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070?? EmptyMon Mar 04, 2019 12:11 am

Ya back in day when i first got the older repack i was rocking a 980 classy and got ok frames before some tweaks i did but friend who had a 780 actually got better frames than me which confused me lol, its just random kinda it seems for some ppl. But now the Special Edition of Skyrim is where its at rly, i got over 347 mods so far installed and still smooth as butter, I cack go back to legendary edition after playing on SSE rly, id recommend everyone to give SSE a go and just see difference.

Anyway back on topic, i got a 1080ti ftw3 HC and even on mod pack from here the frames were iffy and skippy before some tweaks but even then wasnt 100%, SSE allows more head room and its very noticable even on vanilla without mods.
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PostSubject: Re: 45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070??   45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070?? EmptyTue Mar 05, 2019 12:44 am

Lol exactly my thing, my bro has perfect frames on a 1060, Im thinking its his moniter, with 144hz? Bro what tweaks did you do that you can remember?
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PostSubject: Re: 45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070??   45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070?? EmptyTue Mar 05, 2019 12:45 am

Also, yeah I have SSE as well and smooth as butter, when Rotten does a modpack for it I'm going to wet myself lol. Mines pretty good feature wise, just the actual graphics and such he has it down pat.
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PostSubject: Re: 45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070??   45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070?? EmptyTue Mar 05, 2019 2:02 am

@archangel wrote:
Lol exactly my thing, my bro has perfect frames on a 1060, Im thinking its his moniter, with 144hz? Bro what tweaks did you do that you can remember?

Honestly not sure of the tweaks as i havent played this pack in awhile but...im like 99% sure i posted what i did on the forum here some where on the old repack, idk if there is a profile/comment search for where i posted but ill check and see and if i find them ill post back here and edit this.

EDIT: Found the main post i believe i listed everything i did, will paste below.

Anyway gonna list what i personally did just now myself and its night and day for me, only time i see a single stutter is when i hit that mark of where game is loading something in like when i run to whiterun and that giant is fighting the npcs i catch it loading for a split sec and then gone, previously it was stuttering every few steps so huge improvement as i can run from riverwood all the way there without a single stutter till i get to giant which is just amazing rly as previously and even on my old skyrim install never happened so this pack is def better and still not finished so looking good so far. 

Specs  intel 7820x - GPU 1080 TI( even though dont rly matter on this game as it dont fully utilize cpu and gpu ) 
16gb ram
Single Samsung SSD just for gaming.
Dell s2716dg 27 inch  1440p gsync ( gsync was on for the record ) 

Settings changed

Skyrim.ini settings ( Skyrim > profiles > Rotten dub > Skyrim ini)
add "iFPSClamp=( enter fps u want here, below 60 ) Will get more into this at the end
iNumHWThreads= ( cpu cores, if hyperthreaded double it, for me it was 16) 
On latest nvidia driver too as of Oct 21st. 

Also another setting i changed that didnt rly seem to make a difference but could be wrong on that one is the vram setting in enblocal, i ran vram test and it gave me a number of 22048 ( lol ) which i think is from just how many HDs i have in my pc and the combined pagefile of that but i put it at 20,000 according to instructions from SP4 on setting vram. Its already set to 10,000 something so probably didnt need to change it. 

I also still followed the post from SP4 about setting up nvidia control panel for skyrim.

Virus program, simply just add exclusion to the skyrim folder so it never needs to scan.
Turn windows power saving settings to performance. 


Now onto the clamp settings, i first noticed that my game was running way above 60, was hitting 120 and up randomly and that was part of the stuttering issue there im sure, so i was gonna try to set the clamp at 30 which i did but just doing that alone actually made my game stay at 60 and i had already had my monitor set to 60 so idk how that fixed it from going over 60 but it did, normally its meant to lock ur frames in what u avg but if u go below it then it goes into slow motion so not sure how it did what it did for me so just pointing that out and probably most important setting that changed the smoothness of game for me is to simply get ur frames at 60 or below.

The threads setting also seemed to help the overall smoothness but honestly could be placebo.

Other settings are just pretty common to change as virus scanners can interfere and power mode for windows also probably wont make huge difference but just posting everything i did. Like i said the biggest was getting the fps to not go above 60 as that was biggest issue, game is not meant to go above 60 as if u enter a building u will see stuff randomly flying off shelves and even ur wpns on back will be glitching out when u walk.

Ill probably do a before and after video as it was pretty dramatic the difference, it was Gopher from youtube smooth as his videos was just always stupid buttery smooth of his modded skyrim and thats how it felt. 

Also i did have gsync on and havent tested with it off and overall my FPS at 1440p were 60 constantly except in parts of town and some parts outside. My gpu is never fully used as i might even DSR it and see how that goes and cpu usage i think didnt even go over 10% which is why im not sure if that threaded setting actually does anything
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PostSubject: Re: 45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070??   45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070?? EmptyTue Mar 05, 2019 6:36 am

Bro, You sexy sexy man you. We're very similar in how we type lol, "could be placebo" I'm the same way. my doctor hates me lol.

Gonna try these things out, how do i enable G-sync? and also is it the monitor itself that defines 1440p?

Thanks again bro, running DynDOLOD atm to see if that smoothes things up. My V-sync is set to fast at the moment.

When I set it to 30 fps Iclamp it runs butter smooth - HOWEVER - everything is sped up based on frames? How the heck do i fix this?
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iNumHWThreads= physical cores or logical? on intel extreme tuning is says i have 4 pyiscal cores and 8 logical cores.
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PostSubject: Re: 45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070??   45-60FPS I7 JUST upgraded to a EVGA 2070?? EmptyTue Mar 05, 2019 10:15 am

Found out what is causing the micro Stuttering, well for me at least. Go into skyrimprefs and change to these settings:
fTreeLoadDistance=40000
fBlockMaximumDistance=150000
fBlockLevel1Distance=40000
fBlockLevel0Distance=25000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.1


Totally fixed that damn mirco stuttering for me. i can literally run from whiterun to riverwood with MAYBE 1 very very small stutter and that's it! before i was getting like 15-25 micro stutters just running from whiterun to riverwood.
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@archangel wrote:
Bro, You sexy sexy man you. We're very similar in how we type lol, "could be placebo" I'm the same way. my doctor hates me lol.

Gonna try these things out, how do i enable G-sync? and also is it the monitor itself that defines 1440p?

Thanks again bro, running DynDOLOD atm to see if that smoothes things up. My V-sync is set to fast at the moment.

When I set it to 30 fps Iclamp it runs butter smooth - HOWEVER - everything is sped up based on frames? How the heck do i fix this?

Lol why ty, gsync can only be enabled if ur monitor supports it and it would be in ur nvidia control panel and u can see ur display resolution if u right click on desktop and go to display settings, or inside nvidia control panel also to see there. 

And as far as the being sped up issue im not sure, shouldnt be sped up if clamed at 30.
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Ill check that out when i get back from campus lol, yeah my game speed it literally tied to my fps. Its clamped and runs great, but speeds up. Ill keep looking into the issue, if you know anyone who might know lemme know my guy, cause this is the last thing i need and i am golden. Does anyone else know this game speed fps thing? Im so close.
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@archangel wrote:
Ill check that out when i get back from campus lol, yeah my game speed it literally tied to my fps. Its clamped and runs great, but speeds up. Ill keep looking into the issue, if you know anyone who might know lemme know my guy, cause this is the last thing i need and i am golden. Does anyone else know this game speed fps thing? Im so close.
Ya u didnt have to clamp at 30, i was just doing it to see what would happen but u can try clamping at 60 but if i recall if ur frames dip below say 60 or 50 ( what ever u set it at ) i think game will go slow motion, i think anyway, been awhile since ive messed with those settings.
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Im thinking its your monitor playing a large role? I have a pretty gnarly computer, the only thing maybe is I only have 8g ram, but its ddr5 and i have literally a 2070 and a quad core i7? could be the processor, i suppose the newer gens are nuts now but i think skyrim cant even use past 4? yeah this speed thing is aids tho, been tinkering with the iFPSClamp and antilag.cfg in every which way, 30 works perfect,, but everything speeds up - its ridiculous looking lol. Oh well, ill figure it out eventually, ill hit up the fetid NexusMods discord see if they know lol
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@archangel wrote:
Im thinking its your monitor playing a large role? I have a pretty gnarly computer, the only thing maybe is I only have 8g ram, but its ddr5 and i have literally a 2070 and a quad core i7? could be the processor, i suppose the newer gens are nuts now but i think skyrim cant even use past 4? yeah this speed thing is aids tho, been tinkering with the iFPSClamp and antilag.cfg in every which way, 30 works perfect,, but everything speeds up - its ridiculous looking lol. Oh well, ill figure it out eventually, ill hit up the fetid NexusMods discord see if they know lol
Ya the whole speed up thing is weird for sure. Thats one of the draw backs of using a repack cause u didnt make it urself so knowing it inside and out and what to tweak can be a little tricky, not taking away from what Rotten is doing as alot of ppl just dont have time ( Me included back then ) but am thankful for it. And ya i was gonna recommend google as thats how i found alot of my fixes and posted them and gsync does do some magic, idk how exactly it works but even if my frames are at like 30 or 40 it feels like 60 with its mojo it does. I just uploaded a video to youtube showing a mod in action since there wasnt no videos on it but in video u can kinda tell im not at 60 but its smooth like it is, ill give link below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEgHdfzSmjg
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Yeah that monitor looks dangerous. Keep your distance.

Haha that things nice man, that isnt SPM though is it? I have pretty decent control and understanding now, bashed, asis patcher dydndolod etc. I have it working pretty nice now, i turned off Deffered Rendering i think? In enblocal.ini to false, and its smoothy smooth, just a huge bummer as my favorite part about this pack is the snow enb effect. Ill keep tinkering away lol
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@archangel wrote:
Yeah that monitor looks dangerous. Keep your distance.

Haha that things nice man, that isnt SPM though is it? I have pretty decent control and understanding now, bashed, asis patcher dydndolod etc. I have it working pretty nice now, i turned off Deffered Rendering i think? In enblocal.ini to false, and its smoothy smooth, just a huge bummer as my favorite part about this pack is the snow enb effect. Ill keep tinkering away lol
just turned off deffered rendering and wow....the skin looks so bad.
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@archangel wrote:
Yeah that monitor looks dangerous. Keep your distance.

Haha that things nice man, that isnt SPM though is it? I have pretty decent control and understanding now, bashed, asis patcher dydndolod etc. I have it working pretty nice now, i turned off Deffered Rendering i think? In enblocal.ini to false, and its smoothy smooth, just a huge bummer as my favorite part about this pack is the snow enb effect. Ill keep tinkering away lol

Nah its my own skyrim and mods, about 380 mods, if i knew how to do a proper upload of files and instructions id upload it for others to use as its pretty decent and ya thats all u can do is just tweak stuff till u get it how u like although i will say, all them tweaks ur doing aint even needed on the SSE version of skyrim, i havent tweaked nothing on it except 1 line literatly in Skyrim Pref to extend the ugrid distance but even that isnt the ugrid distance ur thinking of that makes it unstable, its some new setting in SSE that allows the distance to go further or something technical, idr the term but its different from ugrid but it makes using dynolod just mind blowing on it now.
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